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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:15:18pm

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:22:32pm
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Ace-o-aces  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:24:55pm

I was never a big Giuliani fan, but he used to be a pretty sharp guy….

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:26:08pm

re: #2 jaunte

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I see reporters are taking “talking to the White House” literally.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:26:46pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:27:23pm
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plansbandc  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:27:47pm

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:29:58pm

May 22, 2017 but nothing changes fast in the hooch world so the advice is still good.

Wine Pairings for Any Impending Impeachment Scenario

We must get serious about what we shall drink

The past few weeks have been a real rollercoaster for the White House! We began the month thinking Trump might be impeached for colluding with Russia, but now there’s literally endless permutations of impeachment opportunities! As the time nears, we must get serious:
Which wines are we going to drink as DJT has those sweet sweet articles of impeachment brought against him?
Below are pairings for a variety of scenarios.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:33:13pm

re: #7 plansbandc

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:38:33pm
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plansbandc  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:39:06pm

re: #9 jaunte

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:40:21pm

re: #11 plansbandc

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Chrysicat  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:41:37pm

For everyone who may be hoping for me to meet Stinky after what I did at the top of the previous thread:

re: #180 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I think Chrysicat accidentally downvoted this.

You’re right, I did, and didn’t notice!

Thanks for pointing it out so once I stopped being so out of it, I was able to undo that error!

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:47:09pm

re: #9 jaunte

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:47:48pm

re: #13 Chrysicat

All of us make mistakes from time to time. It proves we are human beings.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:48:43pm

re: #7 plansbandc

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:49:15pm
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Ace-o-aces  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:53:34pm

re: #17 DodgerFan1988

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 26, 2019 • 8:57:32pm

re: #7 plansbandc

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:01:48pm

As much as I would love to join Facebook and chat with my fellow Lizards in another forum I am not going to because of personal security reasons.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:05:05pm

Watch for sky divers next 3 miles.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:05:52pm

I’m going to start posting baby pictures here because I look nothing like that now.

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:07:59pm

This is a half hour audience-sourced recording of Umphrey’s McGee playing in Bonner, Montana at a place called Kettlehouse Amphitheater, just outside Missoula, early last month. That was fun.

MP3 Audio

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:10:11pm

From the previous thread:

re: #200 GlutenFreeJesus

Yup. We are kidding ourselves if we think Trump/Pence/Barr etc. will be impeached. Mitch will put a stop to it and Republicans won’t even blink an eye. If the Dems don’t campaign HARD on this next year, labeling the GOP as a whole, a bunch of Constitution-shitting, traitorous weasels, they don’t deserve to win.

I REALLY hope I’m wrong, and enough Republicans come to their senses, but they’ve proven time and time again that they just won’t.

We are in for some serious shit next year if Trump loses and refuses to leave, claiming the election was stolen by illegal votes. He will tie it up in his stacked courts forever. Probably declare a national emergency too.

Back to “conservatism is about conserving and gaining power.” That’s it.

The GOP is defending far more seats next year than the Dems.

Already Republicans are ordering buses to throw each other under, Giuliani just being the craziest of them.

As each one tries to shift blame to others, they will bring evidence or others’ complicity.

Mitch McConnell is one horrible person, but he is just as good at testing the public winds and counting votes as Nancy Pelosi. Moreover, his own wife is in the crosshairs at the moment.

At the same time, he is underwater in polling in Kentucky and Amy McGrath is coming after him hard. If he decides he’s made enough money and he isn’t going to go to jail for any of these other assholes, he’ll metaphorically knife them all in the back in a second.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:21:34pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:22:56pm
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austin_blue  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:26:03pm

re: #10 teleskiguy

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Wait, what?

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:29:59pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

I use my real name on Twitter too, always have. I am certifiably nuts.

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austin_blue  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:32:11pm

re: #27 austin_blue

Wait, what?

What’s up w/ Sionnain?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:32:38pm

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

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Reminder on how to file a request to disbar Giuliani.

Follow the link and click on the form!

nycbar.org

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:33:15pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:33:28pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:33:58pm

re: #29 austin_blue

What’s up w/ Sionnain?

littlegreenfootballs.com

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austin_blue  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:37:07pm

re: #33 teleskiguy

littlegreenfootballs.com

Goddamit to hell and gone. I’m going to go have a private cry.

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:39:23pm

re: #34 austin_blue

Goddamit to hell and gone. I’m going to go have a private cry.

I’ve had a couple already. Devastating. Destroys me.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:41:11pm
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Belafon  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:43:28pm

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

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“Your name is Alexa? Let me tell you about my glasses.”

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:48:15pm
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austin_blue  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:49:22pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

I’ve had a couple already. Devastating. Destroys me.

Anybody know the why or how?

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:52:22pm

re: #39 austin_blue

Anybody know the why or how?

Nope. Not that I can see.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2019 • 9:56:38pm
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austin_blue  Sep 26, 2019 • 10:00:59pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

Nope. Not that I can see.

Well, fuck me running. This just sucks. CL, Observer Art, Sionnain. Why we can’t we be immortal?

My deepest regrets to her family and those she loved, and who loved her. She was respected and appreciated, here on this board.

If anyone gets any info on funeral arrangements, please post them up here. Flowers for her kin would be a lovely gesture. Damn.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 26, 2019 • 10:07:23pm

re: #342 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The Puritans were on to something when they banned Christmas. They explicitly banned mince pies, which I think shows particularly good insight and judgement.

I would have been burned as a heretic then. I love minced pie.

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prairiefire  Sep 26, 2019 • 10:10:40pm

...

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CleverToad  Sep 26, 2019 • 10:18:44pm

re: #42 austin_blue

Can’t stop thinking about her kids. So young, and they’ve been through so much. Hoping they have someone caring for them through this, and a safe haven for the future.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 26, 2019 • 10:26:59pm

I think I’d have to agree with Regina

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2019 • 10:43:28pm

Sionnain would have loved this, I’m sure of it.

Umphrey’s McGee: “Half Delayed” (Lyric Video)

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austin_blue  Sep 26, 2019 • 10:47:43pm

I am in no mode to comment about anything tonight. Snuffling off to bed. Damn.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 26, 2019 • 10:48:20pm

re: #7 plansbandc

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KGxvi  Sep 26, 2019 • 10:52:56pm

Since the main GOP talking point seems to be that the whistleblower complaint is all hearsay and should be ignored, I did a quick page with a primer on what hearsay is and some important exceptions. It’s a 10,000 feet perspective, but should help if you need to check that argument.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 26, 2019 • 10:53:17pm

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 26, 2019 • 10:54:33pm

re: #46 Dave In Austin

I think I’d have to agree with Regina

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Did anyone actually believe Greenwald would defend a whistleblower who exposed his BFF?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 26, 2019 • 10:56:29pm

Tomorrow, Dentist for cleaning at 8, then 2 specialist appointments at Kaiser Hollywood then a PM appointment with Kaiser podiatry in Glendale.

Hoping I can get a thumb up to try to go back to the gym…

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 26, 2019 • 11:01:51pm

RIP to Sionnain and condolences to her family.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 26, 2019 • 11:03:46pm

Meanwhile, over at FNC, things are apparently getting chaotic.

In public, Donald Trump’s allies are putting on a brave face, repeating talking points, mostly staying on message. But in private, there are few who believe that the allegations leveled by an intelligence agency whistle-blower that Trump abused American foreign policy to leverage Ukraine into investigating Joe Biden won’t result in considerable damage—if not the complete unraveling of his presidency. “I don’t see how they don’t impeach,” a former West Wing official told me today. “This could unwind very fast, and I mean in days,” a prominent Republican said.

Trump’s final bulwark is liable to be his first one: Fox News. Fox controls the flow of information—what facts are, whether allegations are to be believed—to huge swaths of his base. And Republican senators, who will ultimately decide whether the president remains in office, are in turn exquisitely sensitive to the opinions of Trump’s base. But even before the whistle-blower’s revelations, Fox was having something of a Trump identity crisis, and that bulwark has been wavering. In recent weeks, Trump has bashed Fox News on Twitter, taking particular issue lately with its polling, which, like other reputable polls, has shown the president under significant water. Meanwhile, Trump’s biggest booster seems to be having doubts of his own. This morning, Sean Hannity told friends the whistle-blower’s allegations are “really bad,” a person briefed on Hannity’s conversations told me. (Hannity did not respond to a request for comment). And according to four sources, Fox Corp CEO Lachlan Murdoch is already thinking about how to position the network for a post-Trump future. A person close to Lachlan told me that Fox News has been the highest rated cable network for seventeen years, and “the success has never depended on any one administration.” (A Fox Corp spokesperson declined to comment.)

vanityfair.com

Even Lumpy knows it’s bad.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 26, 2019 • 11:07:53pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 26, 2019 • 11:14:38pm

I just sent Rachel Maddow’s Soundcloud file of the whistleblower complaint to my whole E-mail stable (Democrats, Republicans, and don’t-cares). Let’s see what happens.

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2019 • 11:22:13pm

Here’s a musical recording that may or may not scare away Lizards.

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2019 • 11:32:46pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

Warner Bros. published this. There was a time when huge publishing companies took risks. Frank Zappa’s narrative of his fucking battles he had with publishing companies is fascinating, and his frustration with “the recording industry” led to him owning all his recordings when he died and other innovations that people should be aware of.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 26, 2019 • 11:39:54pm

I need to restart my computer. It’s fouling up again. BRB

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teleskiguy  Sep 26, 2019 • 11:42:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 26, 2019 • 11:53:10pm

I’m back, did you miss me?

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Dread Pirate  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:07:25am

Growing up I thought green eyes were common. I have about 100 aunts, uncles and cousins, most had green eyes. I just found out green eyes are only 2% of the population. Here’s to green eyes.

YouTube

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:18:26am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:19:56am

re: #63 Dread Pirate

Growing up I thought green eyes were common. I have about 100 aunts, uncles and cousins, most had green eyes. I just found out green eyes are only 2% of the population. Here’s to green eyes.

How eyes show as green, and prevalence in different parts of the world:
en.wikipedia.org

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:20:09am

re: #64 goddamnedfrank

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Where do I sign up?

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Dread Pirate  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:33:14am

You can’t always get what you want..

YouTube

..but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:38:59am

So I checked the Federalist article and it’s totally bogus. Not one mention of when some hapless bastard gets shoved in a huge Wicker Man and burned as a sacrifice.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:39:50am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:00:38am

re: #63 Dread Pirate

Growing up, I always thought that being able to see both sets of numbers in a colour-blindness chart was normal.

When I first got glasses at fifteen, the ophthalmologist explained it is actually a rather uncommon form of colour-blindness, in which red-green is weak in one eye and blue-yellow is weak in the other.

The military bans colour-blind people from certain jobs (like the one I had), but makes an exception for those who can see the whole range of colours normally but differently in each eye. (For a person with red-green or blue-yellow colour-blindness in both eyes, it makes reading the colour coding on resistors, capacitors, inductors, and wires difficult.)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:20:28am

The Federalist Doth Accuse Goody Greta Thunberg And Other ‘Climate Worshipers’ Of WITCHCRAFT (goes to Wonkette, more at the link):

Get out the wicker man!

Back in school, when we learned about the Salem Witch Trials, most of us thought to ourselves, “Wow, those people were fucking crazy/ignorant, going around killing people they thought had magic powers and what have you. Good thing people aren’t like that anymore!”

To some degree, they’re not. After all, witchcraft has not been a capital offense in the colonies since at least 1750, and we haven’t even had a real witch trial since that second thing in Salem, in 1878, when the lady who founded the Christian Scientists accused a former disciple of doing “mind crimes,” “malicious animal magnetism,” and mesmerism to some broad in Ipswitch.

And yet.

We somehow still have to deal with backwards townfolk screaming about “witchcraft.” In the ’80s, it was the Satanic Panic. A couple years ago (and today, still), we had all the people wigging out over Marina Abramovic’s performance art and claiming that Hillary Clinton was doing a bunch of performance art-related witchcraft. It seems that no matter how we all try to evolve there will always be someone standing in that corner crying WITCH!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:22:23am

Hot news from America’s favorite baby factory (Duggar clan):

Breaking Family Tradition! Jill Duggar’s Husband Reveals Plan To Send Kids To College

Derick Dillard confessed his two sons will ‘probably’ receive higher education.

Oh, the sin of a higher education. At least Derick has confessed, so he may be forgiven.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:25:44am

Speaking of the baby factory, it appears they have a rebelious daughter who won’t turn on the baby assembly line:

Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar Are ‘Frustrated’ Jana Won’t ‘Follow the Family Norm’ and Settle Down

If you thought you were ready for Jana Duggar to start courting, imagine being her parents. Though Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar have publicly shielded their eldest daughter from too much speculation about her single status, a source close to the family tells In Touch that, behind closed doors, they’re just as impatient as everyone else. Now that her twin, John David Duggar, has found his match and settled down, the Counting On star is the only single member of the family over the age of 21. And as the most eligible bachelorette in their social sphere, she’s surely got plenty of options.

According to the insider, Jim Bob, 54, and Michelle, 53, are trying their best to be “patient” with their daughter as she searches for Mr. Right, but deep down they’re “frustrated” with the wait. “Meet a nice boy, date, get engaged, marry and start a family right away — that’s just how the Duggars do things,” the insider exclusively told In Touch. “But Jana isn’t going to marry someone just to follow the family norm — and that’s refreshing.”

[…]

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:32:43am

re: #72 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Hot news from America’s favorite baby factory (Duggar clan):

Breaking Family Tradition! Jill Duggar’s Husband Reveals Plan To Send Kids To College

Oh, the sin of a higher education. At least Derick has confessed, so he may be forgiven.

Only his sons.

Like the so-called Transformed Wife (Lori Alexander, who insists “Little House on the Prairie” and “The Waltons” have secret messages to create feminists, and aims her blog and YouTube channel at young women to stay at home and have babies and not get an education, while she has a college degree and rakes in thousands every month from her Patreon donors).

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:17:17am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:41:01am

Calling her Satanic fine but sure calling the Covington boys out on awful behavior was liberal bullying. Goddamn

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:42:54am

Youtube’s favorite young mad scientist explains his love of a dangerous chemical:

Making my favorite liquid carcinogen

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:48:26am

re: #76 HappyWarrior

Calling her Satanic fine but sure calling the Covington boys out on awful behavior was liberal bullying. Goddamn

Perpetual conservative victimhood.

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Teukka  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:51:20am

So this happened in Sweden…
Foreign nationals have been arrested at a sensitive military protection object

Two foreign nationals have been arrested at a sensitive military protection object in Upplands-Bro municipality, writes Aftonbladet.
The people entered the area and were then arrested by security guards. Then they were handed over to the police.
“They are suspected of violating the Protection Act,” Towe Hägg at the police regional control center told the newspaper.
According to information to Aftonbladet, one of the persons showed an Ukrainian ID document.
Expressen writes that in the area is one of the country’s two combat control and air monitoring centers, “Grizzly”.
The persons have been arrested and are suspected of violations of the Protection Act.

omni.se
expressen.se
aftonbladet.se
tt.omni.se
polisen.se

So you get the magnitude of this, and why there might be propaganda mudslinging in the near future, “Grizzly” is a site on the order of magnitude as Raven Rock is for the US.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:53:09am

re: #78 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Perpetual conservative victimhood.

Always. But also projection bs.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:58:08am

Considering all the Friday news dumps since Wednesday, I can’t wait for them today.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:27:46am

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

Subpoena Giuliani’s lying behind.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:37:57am

Well, here’s a type of fraud I never heard of (mostly because I used to fix aeroplanes, so I almost never will get on one).

Disloyalty Programs: What Happens If You Break the Frequent-Flier Rules (goes to The New Yorker).

The article cites Popehat for part of its legal analysis.

Last week, Gennady Podolsky was indicted by the Feds for wire fraud. His alleged fraudulent act? Stealing 42 million frequent-flier points from Delta Air Lines.

Podolsky’s alleged fraud involves SkyBonus, the lesser-known companion to Delta’s SkyMiles rewards program. While SkyMiles rewards you for flying Delta, SkyBonus is supposed to reward your employer for your business travel on Delta. Note that I said employer. Podolsky was a partner in a travel agency, and federal prosecutors allege he fictitiously credited his clients’ travel to a SkyBonus account he controlled as though they were his employees, then redeemed the accrued points for “free air travel and other valuable benefits.” You are not supposed to do that.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:47:45am

President Trump. Ukraine. Joe Biden. Impeachment. (Goes to the KCRW [NPR Santa Monica, Calif.] show “Left, Right, and Center,” a weekly legal analysis show of Trump’s many legal issues. This is a special episode just released by Josh Barro with Ken White [Popehat] weighing in on the impeachment announcement, campaign finance violations, Ukraine, &c., fifty-eight minutes plus a short text article.)

The episode explains the issues surrounding what the law says about what Trump’s actions surrounding Ukraine actually are.

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steve_davis  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:54:41am

re: #3 Ace-o-aces

I was never a big Giuliani fan, but he used to be a pretty sharp guy….

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Notice, by the way, that Democrats have been really tight-lipped, for the most part, over Giuliani. I think they are delighted to have him show up on news networks to show them possible new leads to pursue in impeachment. I’m guessing eventually he’ll go to prison.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:55:51am

re: #85 steve_davis

Notice, by the way, that Democrats have been really tight-lipped, for the most part, over Giuliani. I think they are delighted to have him show up on news networks to show them possible new leads to pursue in impeachment. I’m guessing eventually he’ll go to prison.

The question here is if Giuliani winds up being the fall guy for the entire maladministration.

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steve_davis  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:01:53am

re: #24 Anymouse 🌹🎃

From the previous thread:

Back to “conservatism is about conserving and gaining power.” That’s it.

The GOP is defending far more seats next year than the Dems.

Already Republicans are ordering buses to throw each other under, Giuliani just being the craziest of them.

As each one tries to shift blame to others, they will bring evidence or others’ complicity.

Mitch McConnell is one horrible person, but he is just as good at testing the public winds and counting votes as Nancy Pelosi. Moreover, his own wife is in the crosshairs at the moment.

At the same time, he is underwater in polling in Kentucky and Amy McGrath is coming after him hard. If he decides he’s made enough money and he isn’t going to go to jail for any of these other assholes, he’ll metaphorically knife them all in the back in a second.

Trump is clearly going to be impeached. The senate may or may not find him guilty, depending on just how bad things get in the investigation.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:07:08am

Brexiteers continuing their slide towards violence:

British Army corporal tweets Angela Rayner will “perish” in Brexit “civil war”

A corporal in the British Army issued a death threat to a Labour MP and appeared to incite “civil war” on Twitter on Wednesday afternoon.

The corporal, whose Twitter account has now been deleted, wrote to Rayner: “Ohh fuck off you stupid bitch” and said the MP would “perish when civil war comes and it’s coming”. The soldier ended the tweet by adding that “17.4 million people are gunning for blood if we don’t leave”.

[…]

Another statement made by the same soldier on social media described Jo Swinson as “dangerous” and threatened that the Liberal Democrats’ position on Brexit could lead to “civil war”. A comment made under the corporal’s name on the UK Defence Journal website argued that migrants should be sent back to their home countries because they “try impose their way of life into us”.

[…]

Make no mistake, Brexiteers are like Trumpers, and likewise are nascent (to outright) fascists.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:10:17am

re: #73 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So what happens if Jana never marries? I have several friends with that status and they’re happy, successful people. Good on her for charting a different course from the rest of her siblings.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:12:15am

Protectionism as a populist movement is an old song:

Welsh farmers threaten court action to stop ‘tariff-free’ Irish imports

The Farmers Union of Wales (FUW) has said that it is prepared to “go through the courts if necessary” to “properly enforce customs controls” on tariff-free agri-food imports after Brexit, particularly from Ireland.

The FUW said that it is “prepared to challenge any failure” by the government of Boris Johnson to enforce these controls, a failure the union says would allow a “back door” for tariff-free imports, which, it claims, would further affect poor cattle prices in Wales.

Glyn Roberts, the FUW’s president, said: “Since draft import tariff rates and the proposal to allow tariff-free imports from the Republic of Ireland to Northern Ireland were published in March, we have written repeatedly to secretaries of state underlining the damage that those low rates would cause to Welsh agriculture.

[…]

Ethno-nationalism ends in disaster, which every generation has to learn, it appears.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:13:12am

re: #89 Patricia Kayden

But you’re ignoring the important part:

God wants to go a-knitting in her womb.

Why is she keeping God out of her womb?

She must be in rebellion.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:14:39am

kiwireport.com

This post pulls together a number of news reports over several years in New York State.

A woman donated a kidney to her boss to save her life. Unfortunately, the surgeons apparently damaged a nerve during the surgery, which meant her recovery took much longer. She asked for accommodation from the company while she recovered (her boss demanded she return to work much sooner than is medically suggested for a kidney removal), which was denied. After that, the boss fired her.

After a long investigation, the state ruled she was unjustly fired over the time it took to recover from the kidney donation. She is now suing Atlantic Auto Group (a chain car seller) for $15,000,000.

The company suggests it was “poor work performance” as the reason she was fired.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:27:29am

re: #37 Belafon

Gonna be weird when Alexa starts using Samuel L. Jackson’s voice. Wife had the idea of changing it at my daughter’s house without telling her.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:34:05am

re: #91 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

But you’re ignoring the important part:

God wants to go a-knitting in her womb.

Why is she keeping God out of her womb?

She must be in rebellion.

She can have children without getting married. I have friends who have done that too. 😂

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:34:42am

re: #94 Patricia Kayden

She can have children without getting married. I have friends who have done that too. 😂

God doesn’t want to knit in a sinful womb!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:35:22am

re: #93 BlueSpotinAL

Gonna be weird when Alexa starts using Samuel L. Jackson’s voice.

Especially when it starts to quote from Ezekiel.

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Dizzy  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:39:48am

Trump is playing multi-dimensional chess. Right.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:41:01am

re: #95 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

He or she may have no choice about that. It’s not their womb.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:41:20am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:41:38am

re: #89 Patricia Kayden

So what happens if Jana never marries? I have several friends with that status and they’re happy, successful people. Good on her for charting a different course from the rest of her siblings.

Her religion requires her to marry; women are only worthy of bearing children and keeping house.

That goes back to Dad only sending his sons to college.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:42:49am

re: #90 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Protectionism as a populist movement is an old song:

Welsh farmers threaten court action to stop ‘tariff-free’ Irish imports

Ethno-nationalism ends in disaster, which every generation has to learn, it appears.

Pit the Welsh against the Irish!

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:44:27am

re: #97 Dizzy

Reading that tweet, I literally feel as if I’m going crazy. This is a grown man writing like that. The idiocy is overwhelming. This is why I’m glad that none of my friends are pro-Trump. I can’t deal with fools who would support such a childish man.

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b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:45:35am

We’re going to invade Greenland this weekend and take it, aren’t we?

Wag the Huskie.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:46:35am

re: #79 Teukka

So this happened in Sweden…
Foreign nationals have been arrested at a sensitive military protection object

Two foreign nationals have been arrested at a sensitive military protection object in Upplands-Bro municipality, writes Aftonbladet.
The people entered the area and were then arrested by security guards. Then they were handed over to the police.
“They are suspected of violating the Protection Act,” Towe Hägg at the police regional control center told the newspaper.
According to information to Aftonbladet, one of the persons showed an Ukrainian ID document.
Expressen writes that in the area is one of the country’s two combat control and air monitoring centers, “Grizzly”.
The persons have been arrested and are suspected of violations of the Protection Act.

omni.se
expressen.se
aftonbladet.se
tt.omni.se
polisen.se

So you get the magnitude of this, and why there might be propaganda mudslinging in the near future, “Grizzly” is a site on the order of magnitude as Raven Rock is for the US.

I wonder if Twitler will shut down those places because Putin is our friend now.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:48:01am

re: #102 Patricia Kayden

Reading that tweet, I literally feel as if I’m going crazy. This is a grown man writing like that. The idiocy is overwhelming. This is why I’m glad that none of my friends are pro-Trump. I can’t deal with fools who would support such a childish man.

“Low ratings CNN took the hyphen out.”

That’s an apostrophe, Mr. Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:49:22am

re: #103 b.d.

We’re going to invade Greenland this weekend and take it, aren’t we?

Wag the Huskie.

Greenland was so last week.

We were going to invade Venezuela before that.

Notice neither is in the news now?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:51:27am

re: #103 b.d.

We’re going to invade Greenland this weekend and take it, aren’t we?

Wag the Huskie.

I had literally forgotten about that. That was last year wasn’t it?//

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:51:40am

re: #90 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Protectionism as a populist movement is an old song:

Welsh farmers threaten court action to stop ‘tariff-free’ Irish imports

Ethno-nationalism ends in disaster, which every generation has to learn, it appears.

Mad Cow Farmer Disease.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:52:09am

re: #97 Dizzy

Trump is playing multi-dimensional chess. Right.

He spelt describe wrong as well in that tweet.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:53:04am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Greenland was so last week.

We were going to invade Venezuela before that.

Notice neither is in the news now?

Well that’s because Trump literally is doing something destructive daily. I’m sure by the end of the day, we’ll piss off Portugal somehow.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:54:35am

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Her religion requires her to marry; women are only worthy of bearing children and keeping house.

That goes back to Dad only sending his sons to college.

Given that, I would say some sort of “shunning” is likely, although that may just be for association outside a family.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:57:50am

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Well that’s because Trump literally is doing something destructive daily. I’m sure by the end of the day, we’ll piss off Portugal somehow.

San Marino and Lichtenstein better watch out.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:58:30am

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹🎃

San Marino and Lichtenstein better watch out.

Fiji you’re on notice!

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b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:59:18am

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹🎃

San Marino and Lichtenstein better watch out.

Trump is looking to invade a country without an extradition treaty.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:59:35am

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹🎃

He spelt describe wrong as well in that tweet.

which again shows that he has nobody checking his work

which again shows that he does not understand how a President governs in a democracy, which is not the same as how a CEO runs a company.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:59:54am

re: #113 HappyWarrior

Fiji you’re on notice!

We might be coming back, Grenada!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:59:54am

re: #113 HappyWarrior

Fiji you’re on notice!

We can invade Puerto Rico

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:01:10am

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We can invade Puerto Rico

Brown-skin-people land… we want white-people land.

Greenland… Iceland… are all in trouble.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:01:14am

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We can invade Puerto Rico

or California. Any of those foreign countries, really.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:08:11am

Incels cry foul after the US Army warns service members about possible incel attacks on Joker movie screenings (Goes to We Hunted the Mammoth, more at the link):

On Incels (dot) co [link broken by me] — the biggest online incel hangout outside of Reddit, where the regulars talk and joke openly about carrying out similar attacks all the time — commenters are crying foul, complaining that it’s unfair to incels for the Army to warn anyone about possible attacks by incels. Even though the people engaged in the “disturbing and very specific chatter” that led to the warning were apparently incels and the movie in question apperently portrays the Joker as something of an incel.

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:20:01am

re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Pit the Welsh against the Irish!

And let’s make it a time travel story — Brian Boru v. Arthur Pendragon….

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:22:07am

re: #7 plansbandc

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jeffreyw  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:22:11am

Good morning!

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Semper Fi  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:26:25am

re: #51 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Thank you, Joe, almost 5:30am and I just had such a nice full laugh. I’m ready for the day now. Bring it.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:26:45am

re: #123 jeffreyw

Kilroy was there.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:27:59am
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Dizzy  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:31:09am

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹🎃

He spelt describe wrong as well in that tweet.

The whole tweet is culinary derp.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:33:15am
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Dizzy  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:34:16am

re: #102 Patricia Kayden

Reading that tweet, I literally feel as if I’m going crazy. This is a grown man writing like that. The idiocy is overwhelming. This is why I’m glad that none of my friends are pro-Trump. I can’t deal with fools who would support such a childish man.

It’s truly astounding.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:34:26am

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:40:46am
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Belafon  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:41:23am
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Belafon  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:46:06am

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The question here is if Giuliani winds up being the fall guy for the entire maladministration.

If Trump never talked to the Ukrainian president, maybe.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:47:57am

re: #95 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

God doesn’t want to knit in a sinful womb!

He does it an awful lot though.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:49:18am

re: #99 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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He knows exactly how to interpret the Bible.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:58:13am

re: #135 Belafon

He knows exactly how to interpret the Bible.

Every Christian apologist does. It’s amazing how many different interpretations you can get from a book which is supposed to be the clear instructions of a god.

I’m off to bed. The sun is up and I’m tired. Catch y’all later.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:58:16am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump’s on a twitter bender, and it’s not pretty. It never was.

But as the walls close in on Trump, he’s going to get more desperate and project his criminality on to his rivals and political enemies.

Such as here:

It’s what Trump always does.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:00:11am
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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:02:51am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:03:25am

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:09:17am

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:10:44am

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:11:35am

re: #137 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump’s on a twitter bender, and it’s not pretty. It never was.

But as the walls close in on Trump, he’s going to get more desperate and project his criminality on to his rivals and political enemies.

Such as here:

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It’s what Trump always does.

Not gonna happen Dumald.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:11:38am

re: #7 plansbandc

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:14:51am

Throw the book at Trump.

Trump is droning on about how CNN somehow did something around liddle Schiff with an apostrophe or is it a hyphen. No one quite knows what the fuck Trump is talking about, because he doesn’t know what he’s saying. It’s all word salad all the time.

But that’s not what’s important. It’s important to remember that everyone in Trumpworld is implicated in the Ukraine mess and removal from office is the goal here.

At same time, former Sen. Flake claims that there’s 35 GOP Senators who’d be willing to remove Trump from office, if the vote were held today in secret. I’d call them out for being cowards who still wont put party over nation, and continue enabling a corrupt Trump because he puts their regressive agenda into motion (remaking the judiciary, undermining the administrative state, undermining civil and voting rights, etc.).

Doing the right thing has never entered their vocabulary. So the GOP continues to put the nation through this horror show because power is the only thing that matters to them. They don’t care about the rule of law or the Constitution or their own oaths.

As Graham said back in the day - Trump will destroy the GOP.

We’re at the point where the GOP and Trump are proving this very point - as even Graham defends this incomparably corrupt Trumpworld.

Everyone in DC knows that Trump’s engaged in impeachable conduct and should be removed from office along with Pence, Barr, and everyone else associated with Trumpworld. The GOP just doesn’t care.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:15:45am

re: #67 Dread Pirate

You can’t always get what you want..

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Video

..but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need.

For some time this was always played at Trump rallies. Not sure about now—the Stones tried to get Trump to desist.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:16:56am
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:19:00am

re: #147 Ace-o-aces

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Ladies and Gentlemen, the President of the United States of America.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:19:46am
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:20:56am

re: #137 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump’s on a twitter bender, and it’s not pretty. It never was.

But as the walls close in on Trump, he’s going to get more desperate and project his criminality on to his rivals and political enemies.

Such as here:

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It’s what Trump always does.

Just a reminder: It’s not just Trump who publicly want to get rid of Adam Schiff. It was the entire Republican membership of the Intelligence Committee

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:22:55am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Considering all the Friday news dumps since Wednesday, I can’t wait for them today.

This. It’s going to be cray cray this afternoon.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:24:28am

re: #128 Targetpractice

Reporter: Mr. President, now you’re saying the transcript you released is fake?
Trump: Yes. They shouldn’t have fallen for it.
Reporter: So, you further obstructed their investigation. You realize this is an impeachable offense, right?
Trump: But the transcript was real. I didn’t do anything wrong.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:24:34am

re: #151 lawhawk

This. It’s going to be cray cray this afternoon.

“liddle” and “hyphen” are already trending. Can’t wait to see how the day ends.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:24:58am

So, who else in the right wing nutosphere thinks Trump didn’t do anything wrong?

Oh yeah, Trump’s go to voter suppressionist (and white nationalist) Kris Kobach:

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:25:37am

Y’know, even if Twitter had existed when Nixon was in office, I cannot for the life of me believe that he would have ever acted like this.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:27:56am

re: #145 lawhawk

In 2009, Democrats voted for the ACA even though some of them knew it would cost them their jobs because they knew it was the right thing to do.

Such cowards, the GOP are.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:28:06am
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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:29:23am

re: #155 lawhawk

So, who else in the right wing nutosphere thinks Trump didn’t do anything wrong?

Oh yeah, Trump’s go to voter suppressionist (and white nationalist) Kris Kobach:

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Kobach has absolutely no clue what will be unearthed between now and when articles are finally put to a vote, let alone what will be in those articles, but he wants the Senate Repubs to go ahead now and declare they won’t ever vote to convict.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:31:21am

Meanwhile at 19th Century FAUX…

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:35:08am

The master negotiator:

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:37:14am

re: #144 makeitstop

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:39:47am

Since this will be a boring news day let’s get the memes fired up

Pineapple Americans
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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:42:58am

Knit it then Hit it

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:44:05am

I do believe someone left the Metamucil off his cheezburger yesterday……..

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:45:27am
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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:46:01am

re: #152 BigPapa

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:48:51am

re: #162 Hecuba’s daughter

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:58:17am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:02:22am

re: #149 Barefoot Grin

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Yikes.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:02:41am

re: #169 Targetpractice

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Losing his shit.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:06:35am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:08:24am

re: #172 Dave In Austin

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Innocent people don’t resort to hyperbole every time.

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:09:57am

re: #28 teleskiguy

I have a real name FB. Had to do it to win a meet and greet with Taylor. I use it for family and friends I’ve met and know in real life.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:10:52am

Give it a month or so, and we may find out that Trump’s 100% backing by Repubs ain’t so 100% after all.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:11:28am

re: #175 makeitstop

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Give it a month or so, and we may find out that Trump’s 100% backing by Repubs ain’t so 100% after all.

Cracks are starting to show.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:11:58am
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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:11:59am

re: #34 austin_blue

I cried. Was better and than I looked at the picture of her sweet face and I was done. Goddamn it.

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Citizen K  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:12:59am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:14:42am

re: #178 plansbandc

I cried. Was better and than I looked at the picture of her sweet face and I was done. Goddamn it.

I’m crying inside thinking about her, OA, CL, & the other people who won’t see the end of this mess. Shannon was such a nice person. One of the kindest here.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:15:22am

re: #179 Citizen K

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Yawn. Hacks

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SteelPH  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:17:10am

re: #180 HappyWarrior

I’m crying inside thinking about her, OA, CL, & the other people who won’t see the end of this mess. Shannon was such a nice person. One of the kindest here.

I admit, the news made me simultaneously depressed and livid. The best of us always seem to die young(or relatively at least), yet the worst of us seem like they’re immortal. It’s so frustrating.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:17:41am

re: #181 HappyWarrior

Yawn. Hacks

Highly paid concern trolls.

I think NYT did real damage to their rep with that whistleblower story yesterday.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:18:03am

re: #179 Citizen K

Dexter Fergie
@DexterFergie
Got some breaking news from the NYT’s intellectually diverse Never Trumpers.

Is Frank Bruni a Republican? For some reason, I never thought he identified as such.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:18:09am

re: #179 Citizen K

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Again, a reminder that these people are not and never were our allies. The only issue they ever had with Donald Trump is he was saying out loud the things they believed should be said in code.

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SteelPH  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:19:23am

re: #183 makeitstop

Highly paid concern trolls.

I think NYT did real damage to their rep with that whistleblower story yesterday.

Their rep has been tanking since they decided to give Trump a free pass during the election and interview the same six Trump voters over and over.

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Scout  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:19:35am

re: #156 Targetpractice

Y’know, even if Twitter had existed when Nixon was in office, I cannot for the life of me believe that he would have ever acted like this.

I don’t recall any tales of Nixon behaving “unpresidential” — in public.

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:19:35am

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

Thank you for this. I laughed my ass completely off.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:20:48am
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Scout  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:23:34am

re: #157 Belafon

In 2009, Democrats voted for the ACA even though some of them knew it would cost them their jobs because they knew it was the right thing to do.

Such cowards, the GOP are.

Same thing with gun control during the Clinton administration. I remember specifically the representative from the district in Washington state that covers the Olympic Peninsula lost his seat. He won it back one or two cycles later and Clinton helped.

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Citizen K  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:26:49am

re: #184 Hecuba’s daughter

Is Frank Bruni a Republican? For some reason, I never thought he identified as such.

Republican or not, he is still one of the the paper’s preeminent ‘both sides’ hacks.

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:27:49am

re: #181 HappyWarrior

Yawn. Hacks

True, but unfortunately, widely-read hacks in a respectable national paper.

I read through their hackery, btw: and though one can argue with many of their points (well, all of them, really) it basically boils down to one simple phrase: “If you come at the King, you better not miss”. And while all four of these hacks would probably heartily agree that Donald Trump is a disgrace to the nation, and ought to be in jail rather than the White House, they all seem to accept that the system is or will be rigged to ensure a “miss”.
Debatable, IMO, but there we are….

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:29:34am

re: #191 Citizen K

Republican or not, he is still one of the the paper’s preeminent ‘both sides’ hacks.

Isn’t he more a Steny Hoyer type Democrat? Isn’t he not so much “both sideism” but more afraid of being too bold and alienating voters?

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Citizen K  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:31:27am

re: #193 Hecuba’s daughter

Isn’t he more a Steny Hoyer type Democrat? Isn’t he not so much “both sideism” but more afraid of being too bold and alienating voters?

What I’ve seen of him has definitely tended toward ‘both sides’ fence straddling.

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:32:17am

re: #144 makeitstop

What’s your avi?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:33:15am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:35:01am

re: #196 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

My wonder-dog, Roswell II the Atomic Pound-Pup, is giving me the evil eye again.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:36:47am

This is interesting re: Potential violence relating to the Joker movie

Director Todd Phillips is pushing back on recent criticism that his upcoming film “Joker,” starring Joaquin Phoenix, might promote real-world violence.

“We didn’t make the movie to push buttons,” Phillips told TheWrap’s Sharon Waxman in an interview last Friday about the filmmaking process. “I literally described to Joaquin at one point in those three months as like, ‘Look at this as a way to sneak a real movie in the studio system under the guise of a comic book film’. It wasn’t, ‘We want to glorify this behavior.’ It was literally like ‘Let’s make a real movie with a real budget and we’ll call it f-ing Joker’. That’s what it was.

But the movie, which premiered at the Venice Film Festival in August and received an eight-minute standing ovation, is already kicking up controversy for its dark tone. The plot focuses on an irredeemable villain who escapes punishment. The film’s detractors say it creates an its all-too-realistic reminder of the angry loners who have been committing mass shootings in our country.

Though “Joker” has yet to hit theaters, film critics have already described its depictions of violence. In a scene described by TheWrap critic Alonso Duralde, Phoenix’s character incites a mob of protesters after a violent act on a subway. “But this act of violence makes Arthur feel seen for the first time,” he wrote.

Last week, families of victims killed in the 2012 mass shooting at a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, wrote a letter to Warner Bros., the studio behind ‘Joker,’ calling for donations to gun-victim charities because of the film “presents the character as a protagonist with a sympathetic origin story.” The mass shooting occurred during a showing of the Batman film “The Dark Knight Rises.” The shooter, James Holmes, was likened to Joker for his bleached orange hair and voicemail he left at a private-gun range a month before the mass murder.

“Gun violence in our society is a critical issue, and we extend our deepest sympathy to all victims and families impacted by these tragedies. Our company has a long history of donating to victims of violence, including Aurora, and in recent weeks, our parent company joined other business leaders to call on policymakers to enact bi-partisan legislation to address this epidemic,” a representative from Warner Bros. said in a statement on Tuesday. “At the same time, Warner Bros. believes that one of the functions of storytelling is to provoke difficult conversations around complex issues. Make no mistake: neither the fictional character Joker, nor the film, is an endorsement of real world violence of any kind. It is not the intention of the film, the filmmakers or the studio to hold this character up as a hero.”

A U.S. Army Base at Fort Sill, Oklahoma, has also warned about the film’s violence at an upcoming showing, saying in a memo to commanders Monday: “Commanders need to be aware of this threat for Soldier and family safety and to increase situational awareness should they choose to attend the release of this movie.”

To the issue of controversy over the movie, Phillips confesses confusion. “I’m surprised… Isn’t it good to have these discussions? Isn’t it good to have these discussions about these movies, about violence? Why is that a bad thing if the movie does lead to a discourse about it?”

Phillips thinks that people as a whole are waiting for a target they can pounce on - and “Joker” may be an obvious one. And in this case, it’s not about the right-wing targeting Hollywood movies over guns - it’s broader than that.

“I think it’s because outrage is a commodity, I think it’s something that has been a commodity for a while,” he said. “What’s outstanding to me in this discourse in this movie is how easily the far left can sound like the far right when it suits their agenda. It’s really been eye opening for me.”

Also of note: The theater where the Aurora showing took place will NOT be screening Joker.

I’m a huge fan of comic books and pop culture and I think anyone who describes the Joker as an incel just doesn’t understand the character. First of all, Joker frequently does NOT work alone. He usually has a group of henchmen at the ready for when he needs them (even if he does consider them readily expendable). Secondly, Joker is a violent, mentally ill individual and while there are occasional sexual overtones to his conduct (at least in the comics, not so much in live action), I really don’t think there’s much sexual motivation to the characters actions. He wants to be a fucking crime king, not a playboy. I think a good contrast for this Joker would be James McAvoys multiple personality, violent character from Split. That guy wasn’t really sexual motivated either. He was just mentally ill and keyed in on violence as his main way to cope.

Also important to note that both of these characters are VILLAINS. They’re meant to be the bad guys in their particular stories, even though they are also the lead character.

But the key thing is that the Joker is a FICTIONAL CHARACTER. Sure, there are real world elements that are part of him, but it’s a movie. It’s not real.

I certainly hope all this concern is overblown because I do think the movie will be quite good.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:36:52am

re: #195 plansbandc

What’s your avi?

This:

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:44:22am

re: #199 makeitstop

I found you. <3

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William Lewis  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:48:46am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

Shrug. Just another violence porn masquerading as cinema. Just like Tarantino’s trash.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:49:25am

re: #50 KGxvi

Since the main GOP talking point seems to be that the whistleblower complaint is all hearsay and should be ignored, I did a quick page with a primer on what hearsay is and some important exceptions. It’s a 10,000 feet perspective, but should help if you need to check that argument.

i posted this to your page:

in summary:

- ask the R’s why ‘hearsay’ is a problem
- let em spout
- then say “so we should get the actual witnesses in and talk to them, right?”

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:50:50am

I just want to let everyone know that when you find me on FB, the lovely avi with the delightful fro is not, I REPEAT, not me.

I may have had that unfortunate hair do when I was a kid, but now I rock a vibrant green or purple (depending on the season) “sensible” hair style.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:51:38am

re: #184 Hecuba’s daughter

Is Frank Bruni a Republican? For some reason, I never thought he identified as such.

Oh I remember how he endlessly trashed Al Gore in 2000 and kissed Dumbya’s ass!

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:56:30am

re: #92 Anymouse 🌹🎃

kiwireport.com

This post pulls together a number of news reports over several years in New York State.

A woman donated a kidney to her boss to save her life. Unfortunately, the surgeons apparently damaged a nerve during the surgery, which meant her recovery took much longer. She asked for accommodation from the company while she recovered (her boss demanded she return to work much sooner than is medically suggested for a kidney removal), which was denied. After that, the boss fired her.

After a long investigation, the state ruled she was unjustly fired over the time it took to recover from the kidney donation. She is now suing Atlantic Auto Group (a chain car seller) for $15,000,000.

The company suggests it was “poor work performance” as the reason she was fired.

ask for the kidney back

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MsJ  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:56:31am

re: #55 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, over at FNC, things are apparently getting chaotic.

vanityfair.com

Even Lumpy knows it’s bad.

I love how Hannity was looped in to Confidential/Top Secret/Whatever communications.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:57:39am

re: #93 BlueSpotinAL

Gonna be weird when Alexa starts using Samuel L. Jackson’s voice. Wife had the idea of changing it at my daughter’s house without telling her.

i use the cookie monster voice on waze

“C is for careful. Also for cookie”

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:57:59am

re: #204 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh I remember how he endlessly trashed Al Gore in 2000 and kissed Dumbya’s ass!

Definitely was not reading him back then. Wasn’t the entire NY Times opinion page behaving that way? They officially endorse the Democrat but their opinion writers trash them every time.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:59:07am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Greenland was so last week.

We were going to invade Venezuela before that.

Notice neither is in the news now?

they cut the annual refugee quota in half to 18k yesterday
that didnt make much news either

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SteelPH  Sep 27, 2019 • 7:59:19am

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MsJ  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:01:23am

re: #97 Dizzy

Trump is playing multi-dimensional chess. Right.

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Trump isn’t even playing tiddly winks. He couldn’t master checkers if he tried.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:03:05am

re: #209 DangerMan

they cut the annual refugee quota in half to 18k yesterday
that didnt make much news either

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:06:32am

re: #126 Targetpractice

she also said “the president of the United States used taxpayer dollars to shake down the leader of another country for his own political gain.”

what a clear, simple, concise, easy to understand statement

the mueller report was 400+ pages. a lot of nuance. and of course mueller felt he couldnt indict. (doesnt mean the house stopped working on it no matter how it ‘appears’). try summarizing it for a bumper sticker.

this is one reason why i think she waited so long and why (i think) she’s as good as she is. 12 words.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:06:33am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:07:14am
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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:08:21am

re: #210 SteelPH

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:09:37am

re: #150 Hecuba’s daughter

Just a reminder: It’s not just Trump who publicly want to get rid of Adam Schiff. It was the entire Republican membership of the Intelligence Committee

its stupid posturing and everybody knows it
and its all they got

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:09:51am

re: #205 DangerMan

ask for the kidney back

Atlantic’s main showroom is right near my house. Those guys have a rep for being obnoxious turds. I hope she wins.

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SteelPH  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:10:47am

re: #216 plansbandc

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:12:09am

re: #208 Hecuba’s daughter

Definitely was not reading him back then. Wasn’t the entire NY Times opinion page behaving that way? They officially endorse the Democrat but their opinion writers trash them every time.

Yep. Standard operating procedure at the NYT: with, of course, its converse practice when Republicans occupy the WH (as in the Dubya Era)* - official editorial disapproval: but little-to-bupkis in the way of contrary opinionizing.

*at least until the economy cratered

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:12:12am

re: #155 lawhawk

kobach: In light of the lack of evidence presented up to this point that the president has committed any high crimes or misdemeanors, I call on the Senate GOP conference to declare that they will not vote to convict on articles of impeachment based on what the Democrats have presented.

- pelosi announced ‘inquiry’ earlier this week.
- they got the complaint and the transcription-not-a-transcript yesterday (spin the content any way you’d like)
- how much should have happened “up to this point”?

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:13:35am

re: #207 DangerMan

i use the cookie monster voice on waze

“C is for careful. Also for cookie”

We do that too. It’s hilarious, but the cookie monster voice doesn’t do street names the way the standard waze voices do.

I would pay for the Samuel L. Jackson voice on Alexa.

Alexa, what’s my bank account total.
SLJ: I don’t remember asking you a goddamned thing.

Alexa, should I go out tonight?
SLJ: Given That It’s A Stupid-Ass Decision, I’ve Elected To Ignore It.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:14:14am

re: #156 Targetpractice

Y’know, even if Twitter had existed when Nixon was in office, I cannot for the life of me believe that he would have ever acted like this.

- i have to believe that nixon had a sense of government
- he knew what he did was wrong
- when it came to light he knew he was gonna lose and actually get creamed by congress
- and yes, he probably thought if it never came to light he’d be fine

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:16:44am

re: #175 makeitstop

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Give it a month or so, and we may find out that Trump’s *public* 100% backing by Repubs ain’t so 100% after all.

just helpin out

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:17:38am

re: #196 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Huckabee learns how to treat dogs

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:20:32am
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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:21:36am

re: #211 MsJ

Trump isn’t even playing tiddly winks. He couldn’t master checkers if he tried.

i’ve heard people say he eats them

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:23:28am

re: #222 lawhawk

Alexa: What should I wear tonight?
SLJ: WHERE IS MY SUPER SUIT?!

Alexa: Where should I go for dinner?
SLJ: Big Kahuna Burger? That’s that Hawaiian burger joint. That *IS* a tasty burger. Just make sure you have something to wash it down.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:24:14am

re: #214 lawhawk

which nicely feeds “you wanna compare [lying about] a consensual blow job to international extortion?”

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:24:27am

re: #226 Targetpractice

Especially Trump. Everyone advised Obama to give up his phone. He could have kept it, being the president, but he decided, being the president, that he needed to give it up. Trump goes against advisements from others all the time.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:25:03am

re: #227 DangerMan

One of the late nite hosts said that Trump eats chess pieces, and when he chokes on one, he eats another to dislodge the first.

Trump isn’t playing 3d chess, or even tic-tac-toe. He’s wiping his inane excremental bloviations all over everything and everyone as he flails about knowing that his hold on power is in doubt.

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Scout  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:27:44am

One can’t help but wonder what role Bolton plays in this little caper.

But for me, I’m particularly interested in calls with the saudi prince over the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, a heinous crime that will tragically go unpunished.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:30:13am

re: #230 Belafon

Especially Trump. Everyone advised Obama to give up his phone. He could have kept it, being the president, but he decided, being the president, that he needed to give it up. Trump goes against advisements from others all the time.

They’re basically stuck at the “blame anyone and everyone” stage, in this case insisting that they only put that transcript on a secret computer server away from any scrutiny because the NSC lawyers told them to do so.

In the process, they’re:

A) Confirming another part of the whistleblower’s complaint, which continues to undermine their own party’s efforts to dismiss it as “hearsay.”
B) Inviting yet more denials, this time from the NSC, which will only further erode whatever trust they had within those agencies.
C) Make the Dems more determined to get that transcript and others that are alleged to be stored on there in direct contravention of the Presidential Records Act.

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MsJ  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:30:18am

re: #227 DangerMan

i’ve heard people say he eats them

Covered in glue.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:32:47am

re: #232 Scout

One can’t help but wonder what role Bolton plays in this little caper.

But for me, I’m particularly interested in calls with the saudi prince over the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, a heinous crime that will tragically go unpunished.

President Warren can do something about this. Or Harris.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:33:17am

re: #231 lawhawk

One of the late nite hosts said that Trump eats chess pieces, and when he chokes on one, he eats another to dislodge the first.

Trump isn’t playing 3d chess, or even tic-tac-toe. He’s wiping his inane excremental bloviations all over everything and everyone as he flails about knowing that his hold on power is in doubt.

He knows his base delights in anything that offends the “libs”; he was a reality TV star and his base feeds on craziness — the more intense, the better. He’s trying to keep up his ratings because none of this is real to him. He’s never faced adverse consequences for any of his crimes/incompetence before in his life — why should he expect this to be different? Every prior time, he’s escaped retribution and he is confident the same will hold true now. Indeed, impeachment hearings will keep him in the limelight — which is exactly where he wants to be — the focus of attention of the whole world.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:35:08am
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:35:51am

re: #232 Scout

One can’t help but wonder what role Bolton plays in this little caper.

But for me, I’m particularly interested in calls with the saudi prince over the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, a heinous crime that will tragically go unpunished.

Me too. I have always believed that the Trump administration gave advance approval to MBS — that he wasn’t just an accessory after the fact.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:37:57am

politicalwire.com

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) said after closed-door briefings with the acting director of national intelligence and the intelligence community inspector general that she wants a “word-for-word” transcript of President Trump’s call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, The Hill reports.

She noted the whistleblower complaint “suggests that an ‘official word-for-word transcript of the call was produced.”

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:40:45am

re: #233 Targetpractice

They’re basically stuck at the “blame anyone and everyone” stage, in this case insisting that they only put that transcript on a secret computer server away from any scrutiny because the NSC lawyers told them to do so.

In the process, they’re:

A) Confirming another part of the whistleblower’s complaint, which continues to undermine their own party’s efforts to dismiss it as “hearsay.”
B) Inviting yet more denials, this time from the NSC, which will only further erode whatever trust they had within those agencies.
C) Make the Dems more determined to get that transcript and others that are alleged to be stored on there in direct contravention of the Presidential Records Act.

when the dems do get the entire phone call and it’s seen for what it is (not natsec sensitive), then the question will be why exactly did ‘the NSC lawyers’ think this call was so sensitive that it needed to be protected this way

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:41:14am

re: #234 MsJ

Covered in glue.

checks and dip

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:43:39am
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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:44:00am

I’m digging how the subpoenas and demands for documents are coming from all corners now.

In that asshole Bannon’s words, ‘Flood the zone.’ These clowns are barely competent enough to run day-to-day business. Dems should go out of their way to bombard them with more legal demands than their incompetent lawyers can handle.

Something’s gonna break.

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:46:06am

OK, maybe it’s an artifact of either age, or the hideously-rapid pace of “breaking news” in the Trump Era, but… as I seem to recall:

President Orangeanus was claiming in his tweetstorm this morning that Liddle’ Adam Schiff (did I get the apostrophe right?) was misquoting/misrepresenting/making shit up re Trump’s conversations with President Zelensky at yesterday’s HPSCI hearings.

But wasn’t Schiff simply reading/citing the *official* transcription that the Government had provided ? And if it was in any respect inaccurate, why was it released to the Committee in the first place? I haz a confuse….

I saw, yesterday, a bunch of Internet waggery about how the “real” Trump/Zelensky conversation went, but I swear, I wouldn’t be surprised if, when pressed, the WH released the “real” transcripts of the “actual” conversations (from those “secure servers” or whatever), and scream “GOTCHA!!!” when they “prove” to be innocuous - or, more likely, prove all of Trump’s/Sean Hannity’s conspiracy theories to be “completely true”….

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:47:50am

re: #244 Jay C

OK, maybe it’s an artifact of either age, or the hideously-rapid pace of “breaking news” in the Trump Era, but… as I seem to recall:

President Orangeanus was claiming in his tweetstorm this morning that Liddle’ Adam Schiff (did I get the apostrophe right?) was making misquoting/misrepresenting/making shit up re Trump’s conversations with President Zelensky at yesterday’s HPSCI hearings.

But wasn’t Schiff simply reading/citing the *official* transcription that the Government had provided ? And if it was in any respect inaccurate, why was it released to the Committee in the first place? I haz a confuse….

I saw, yesterday, a bunch of Internet waggery about how the “real” Trump/Zelensky conversation went, but I swear, I wouldn’t be surprised if, when pressed, the WH released the “real” transcripts of the “actual” conversations (from those “secure servers” or whatever), and scream “GOTCHA!!!” when they “prove” to be innocuous - or, more likely, prove all of Trump’s/Sean Hannity’s conspiracy theories to be “completely true”….

Wouldn’t that be obstruction of justice?

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:48:10am

re: #237 lawhawk

Vacation has been cancelled.

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:49:41am

re: #234 MsJ

Covered in glue.

Library paste.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:52:01am

re: #244 Jay C

OK, maybe it’s an artifact of either age, or the hideously-rapid pace of “breaking news” in the Trump Era, but… as I seem to recall:

President Orangeanus was claiming in his tweetstorm this morning that Liddle’ Adam Schiff (did I get the apostrophe right?) was misquoting/misrepresenting/making shit up re Trump’s conversations with President Zelensky at yesterday’s HPSCI hearings.

But wasn’t Schiff simply reading/citing the *official* transcription that the Government had provided ? And if it was in any respect inaccurate, why was it released to the Committee in the first place? I haz a confuse….

I saw, yesterday, a bunch of Internet waggery about how the “real” Trump/Zelensky conversation went, but I swear, I wouldn’t be surprised if, when pressed, the WH released the “real” transcripts of the “actual” conversations (from those “secure servers” or whatever), and scream “GOTCHA!!!” when they “prove” to be innocuous - or, more likely, prove all of Trump’s/Sean Hannity’s conspiracy theories to be “completely true”….

- in this context, it’s really that none of this matters - it’s tv, kabuki, posturing, whatever
- there will be investigations (leading to endless meaningless spin)
- there will (eventually) be articles of impeachment that will include supportable allegations
- there will (maybe) be a senate trial - evidence will be presented. this is the only point at which facts/truth matter

that is of course besides the point that facts matter re: lying directly to congress

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:56:08am
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:57:25am

re: #244 Jay C


But wasn’t Schiff simply reading/citing the *official* transcription that the Government had provided ? And if it was in any respect inaccurate, why was it released to the Committee in the first place? I haz a confuse….

Schiff was characterizing the call — not a verbatim read. And let’s say it’s accurate — but not literal.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:01:01am
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Belafon  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:02:24am

re: #249 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That’s good. Spider-man 3: Far from Marvel would have been a hard one to pull off with way the end credits left things.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:04:42am

re: #250 Hecuba’s daughter

Schiff was characterizing the call — not a verbatim read. And let’s say it’s accurate — but not literal.

still doesnt matter
it doesnt mean anything

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:05:07am

re: #250 Hecuba’s daughter

Schiff was characterizing the call — not a verbatim read. And let’s say it’s accurate — but not literal.

Schiff was translating Mafia Donese into English.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:06:17am

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:07:55am

re: #251 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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it’s like watching the porcupine races in council, idaho. (and yes, i’ve seen the race in person)

YouTube

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:07:56am

Trump’s ‘impeach the son of a bitch’ rating is higher than Nixon’s was when his impeachment started. So he can brag about that, I guess.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:10:47am
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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:12:50am

re: #257 makeitstop

Trump’s ‘impeach the son of a bitch’ rating is higher than Nixon’s was when his impeachment started. So he can brag about that, I guess.

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he may yet beat andrew johnson’s record of 1,045 days from inauguration to impeachment

not likely but we’re at 980 or so and counting

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:13:33am

re: #257 makeitstop

Trump’s impeach the SOB rating is higher than Trump’s approval rating…

In fact, one of the impeachment related polls shows a majority of the nation wants to impeach Trump (55, including strongly and leaning combined), compared with Trump who has never had a majority approve of him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:14:33am

re: #257 makeitstop

Trump’s ‘impeach the son of a bitch’ rating is higher than Nixon’s was when his impeachment started. So he can brag about that, I guess.

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Shhh don’t tell the professional concern trolls.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:17:57am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

Shhh don’t tell the professional concern trolls.

Yet, if you look at the numbers, you can see why some Democrats are hesitant.

We live in a nation that is fine with a malicious dunce at the top.

I guess this is the result of our great wealth, which has allowed an ease of life (for most if not all Americans) to let us forget that big picture decisions do eventually reach our daily lives, in how we inhabit our communities and the choices we will have.

That so many Americans are not concerned with Trump’s policies of cruelty is a sign that we are docile.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:19:23am

re: #262 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Yet, if you look at the numbers, you can see why some Democrats are hesitant.

We live in a nation that is fine with a malicious dunce at the top.

I guess this is the result of our great wealth, which has allowed an ease of life (for most if not all Americans) to let us forget that big picture decisions do eventually reach our daily lives, in how we inhabit our communities and the choices we will have.

That so many Americans are not concerned with Trump’s policies of cruelty is a sign that we are docile.

True but not impeaching him has its risks too that they’re not talking about.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:23:14am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:23:16am

re: #262 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

That so many Americans are not concerned with Trump’s policies of cruelty is a sign that we are docile.

It’s information overload. So much insane shit coming at us so fast there’s no time to process it all.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:24:31am

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:24:36am

re: #264 goddamnedfrank

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These are the new Nixon tapes.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:24:39am

re: #263 HappyWarrior

True but not impeaching him has its risks too that they’re not talking about.

those -not impeach- risks are now becoming clearer to more and more people

D’s having the power and not impeaching may be seen as worse than R’s ‘theoretically’ voting to acquit in a trial that never comes to be

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:25:00am

re: #262 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Yet, if you look at the numbers, you can see why some Democrats are hesitant.

We live in a nation that is fine with a malicious dunce at the top.

I guess this is the result of our great wealth, which has allowed an ease of life (for most if not all Americans) to let us forget that big picture decisions do eventually reach our daily lives, in how we inhabit our communities and the choices we will have.

That so many Americans are not concerned with Trump’s policies of cruelty is a sign that we are docile.

It’s a reminder of how racist this nation has been since its beginning. It’s not being docile; it’s verification of the LBJ quote: “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.” The Trump supporters of my acquaintance are not poor; they are just racist (or Netanyahu acolytes — which is a different form of racism)

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:25:48am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

But the most important question is who is the new Rosemary?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:25:48am

re: #268 DangerMan

those -not impeach- risks are now becoming clearer to more and more people

D’s having the power and not impeaching may be seen as worse than R’s ‘theoretically’ voting to acquit in a trial that never comes to be

Exactly.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:25:50am

re: #264 goddamnedfrank

“the lawyers told me to do it” defense won’t work

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:26:06am

re: #270 Ace Rothstein

But the most important question is who is the new Rosemary?

Good question.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:26:31am

re: #273 HappyWarrior

Stephen Miller.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:26:41am

re: #270 Ace Rothstein

But the most important question is who is the new Rosemary?

Whoever inserted the ellipsis in the “transcript”.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:26:41am

re: #267 HappyWarrior

These are the new Nixon tapes.

i said yesterday those ellipses may prove to be the 18 minute gap

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:27:25am

re: #272 DangerMan

Lol, do they think that’s a defense? It’s total bullshit anyway, someone had to approve it.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:27:44am

re: #271 HappyWarrior

Exactly.

i get one now and again ;-)

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:28:15am

re: #257 makeitstop

The latest polls are just more confirmation of the deep ideological hole we are in. Impeachment is the remedy. But basically, nearly half the country is still just fine with white supremacism. The other half for Impeachment is splintered into those firmly against racial bigotry and those that are fine with white supremacism but just bothered by the lawlessness and crass behavior of Trump.

This is the reality underlying the shape of the country in 2019.

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:28:58am
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electrotek  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:29:29am

As a car guy myself, I’m noticing a lot of them are so triggered by Greta it is beyond pathetic.

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:29:36am
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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:30:11am
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:30:22am

re: #272 DangerMan

“the lawyers told me to do it” defense won’t work

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More like the White House lawyers knew these calls were so flagrantly criminal that they tried to bury them … over and over again. That makes the people whose job is to legally represent the Office of the President accessories after the fact.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:30:34am

re: #256 DangerMan

it’s like watching the porcupine races in council, idaho. (and yes, i’ve seen the race in person)

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Larger

I don’t know
The corgis seemed to be enjoying their race quite a bit more

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:30:49am

re: #266 A Mom Anon

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:31:19am

re: #277 Ace Rothstein

Lol, do they think that’s a defense? It’s total bullshit anyway, someone had to approve it.

i dont know what they think
i do believe they are playing way over their heads

and lewandowski to spearhead this thing? the best you can do? ‘only the best?’

these people really dont understand politics and political gamesmanship

they are lightweights compared to some folks who have been through these kinds of investigations, high profile hearings and yes, impeachments, before.

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danarchy  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:32:37am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

““I literally described to Joaquin at one point in those three months as like, ‘Look at this as a way to sneak a real movie in the studio system under the guise of a comic book film’.

Well this explains why my first impression of the trailer was “This looks like a good movie, it just doesn’t look like a good Joker movie.”

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Citizen K  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:33:47am

The absolute thin-skinnedness of NYT reporters will never fail to be depressing. It’s just…wow.

It’s clear it’s not about actual journalism, and it’s not even about overcorrecting their own supposed tendencies toward liberalism. THey have overt grudges against Dems and liberals and seem all too content to air them out in full, in their own coverage, while still trying to cling to some veneer of objectivity. To wit…

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:33:53am

re: #287 DangerMan

i dont know what they think
i do believe they are playing way over their heads

and lewandowski to spearhead this thing? the best you can do? ‘only the best?’

these people really dont understand politics and political gamesmanship

they are lightweights compared to some folks who have been through these kinds of investigations, high profile hearings and yes, impeachments, before.

When Clinton was impeached, he found experts on the law who could represent him throughout.

Trump’s getting a guy like Lewandowski? And Trump got rid of Flood (who was on the Clinton legal team). Others who’d be in a position to rep Trump due to their experience in dealing with these issues wont touch Trump because they know Trump will ruin their careers too - not just in not paying, but because everyone knows Trump lies to everyone and doesn’t listen to anything he’s told if it contradicts his opinion. He always thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room, even when that’s clearly not the case. His own lawyers for his real estate business had a 2-man rule for a reason. No one trusted Trump, even his own lawyers.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:35:40am
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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:36:08am

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

The Interrupters - Bad Guy (Billie Eilish cover)

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MsJ  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:36:34am

re: #255 The Pie Overlord!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:37:48am

re: #269 Hecuba’s daughter

It seems I was radicalized when young… as I turned to reading science instead of doing religious things… and this led me to being a skeptic early on.

In my adult life I have drifted around beliefs/politics, but I guess my youth has stuck with me and I am an inveterate skeptic.

Early on I learned about troubling things in this society in which I was born and grew up. At times in my life I just ignored them, thinking more of my own career and needs.

As I grow older, though, I realize how selfish I have been. That I, even though growing up quite poor, had a lot of privileges that people of color did not have, which became more clear to me when after college doors opened up for me.

Still, I can empathize with the poor and the very real life-long problems that childhood poverty can engender.

That today in our country, half the people are fine with an extremely malicious narcissist setting policies that hurt people is just sad to me. I have a very low opinion of us humans anyway so I can’t say I am surprised. Just sad.

Even today on my Facebook timeline was one of those crazy forwarded posts, written by a religious nut, going on about how Trump will be vindicated and the real criminals are Clinton, etc.

It will not end with these folk because they are so deep into religious fantasy (that particular example of someone into a Christian spin-off cult) that to call them to reality on Trump is to call them to reality on their core religious beliefs, which are delusional.

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MsJ  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:37:55am

re: #256 DangerMan

it’s like watching the porcupine races in council, idaho. (and yes, i’ve seen the race in person)

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Video

That’s horrible. I’m crying.

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Citizen K  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:39:21am

re: #292 Shropshire Slasher

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

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Video

The singer’s voice reminds me of Pink. And speaking of this song, I’m not sure if this was linked before around the time it just came out, but…

bad guy in the style of Breaking Benjamin (feat. Jared Dines)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:41:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:43:49am

moron

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:46:24am

re: #289 Citizen K

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:47:07am
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ckkatz  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:48:37am

Fairfax County Police Chief on the assault by three boys of a girl at “Mother” Pence’s school:

Statement from Chief Edwin C. Roessler Jr. on Alleged Assault at the Immanuel Christian School

We are actively investigating an alleged assault on Sept. 23 at the Immanuel Christian School located in Fairfax County. The Va. Code Ann. § 16.1-301 prohibits our Police Department from disclosing to the community law enforcement records concerning juveniles. The code section also provides that such disclosures may only occur under certain circumstances, generally related to the disclosure of the information by order of the court or to individuals involved with the juvenile in the criminal justice system. As such, we are prohibited by law from disclosing further information regarding this case.

fcpdnews.wordpress.com

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Citizen K  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:50:07am

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump and the NYT are a match made in hell apparently. That’s why they’re so subservient to a man who would have the entire newsroom executed if he could. They seem so obsessed with thumbing Obama in the eye by proxy by any means that they can’t see that Trump is doing worse things to them every single fucking day.

It’s just…fucking hell.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:52:32am
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garzooma  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:53:31am

re: #263 HappyWarrior

True but not impeaching him has its risks too that they’re not talking about.

These risks have been seriously understated. The Whistleblower stuck his neck out. There were dozens of other witnesses who didn’t. Not impeaching is saying that they were right and he was wrong: if the direct targets of illegal foreign election interference don’t care enough to do anything about it, why should anyone else? It’s basically a license to commit crimes to fix elections, just like in Russia.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2019 • 9:57:45am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:00:09am

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

Completely fucking blatant. Wow.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:00:23am
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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:02:34am

Someone’s career light should be flashing in the red. And by someone, I mean everyone in Trumpworld. This latest crisis should end everyone in Trumpworld from Trump and Pence on down. They all knew, and engaged in criminal conduct, including the coverup.

Releasing the readout only shows further criminal conduct, and the WB report shows even more. Every step of the way Trump engages in crimes. A delay in releasing report that was required to be release doesn’t indicate transparency. It shows complicity and an ongoing coverup of crimes.

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:03:33am

re: #70 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Growing up, I always thought that being able to see both sets of numbers in a colour-blindness chart was normal.

When I first got glasses at fifteen, the ophthalmologist explained it is actually a rather uncommon form of colour-blindness, in which red-green is weak in one eye and blue-yellow is weak in the other.

The military bans colour-blind people from certain jobs (like the one I had), but makes an exception for those who can see the whole range of colours normally but differently in each eye. (For a person with red-green or blue-yellow colour-blindness in both eyes, it makes reading the colour coding on resistors, capacitors, inductors, and wires difficult.)

My husband was color blind, perhaps with both forms. He memorized that part of the test, and served stateside in the Korean War.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:05:50am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:07:46am
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MsJ  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:09:25am

re: #311 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Fuck a bunch of Gabbard. That is all.

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b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:11:07am

re: #312 MsJ

Fuck a bunch of Gabbard. That is all.

lol, Gabbard had to approve impeachment now that she’s going to be in the debate, can you imagine the pile on she would have gotten if not?

Otherwise she wouldn’t have…..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:11:21am

Wondering how genuine that was or if Tulsi is jumping on the bandwagon now that everyone else has to try and boost her 2020 campaign.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:12:02am

re: #311 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m confused. They say Gabbard is a holdout, and yet they’ve got her checked off as a yes. Did something change?

Why yes… yes it did.

Trump’s lost Gabbard.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:12:41am

re: #311 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Rep. GABBARD has backed an impeachment inquiry. One of the last remaining holdouts becomes the 225th Democrat on board.

To maintain her cover.

not /

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b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:16:03am

re: #316 makeitstop

To maintain her cover.

not /

Hard to be under cover when you stick out like a sore thumb

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:16:08am

ADVOGATO!

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MsJ  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:17:42am

re: #313 b.d.

lol, Gabbard had to approve impeachment now that she’s going to be in the debate, can you imagine the pile on she would have gotten if not?

Otherwise she wouldn’t have…..

Exactly. What happy horseshit. I can’t imagine how much less I like her for that. Nothing but opportunism. (spit)

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:21:54am

Expected.

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:35:54am

re: #50 KGxvi

Since the main GOP talking point seems to be that the whistleblower complaint is all hearsay and should be ignored, I did a quick page with a primer on what hearsay is and some important exceptions. It’s a 10,000 feet perspective, but should help if you need to check that argument.

In federal courts, hearsay is defined as defense testimony.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:40:11am

re: #320 goddamnedfrank

Judge Dolly Gee

Someone’s parents had a twisted sense of humor.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:40:55am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:41:10am

A good friend of mine has a very young son who in currently in ICU and near death. We don’t know what exactly happened to him (was found unresponsive in his crib last night) but…it’s not looking good.

So if you could send some prayers and good juju their way I’d appreciate it.

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Alephnaught  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:42:54am

Hmm, interesting detail in that Vanity Fair article about Fox News and their internal battle about how to cover Trump.

The ultimate referee of this fight will be Lachlan Murdoch. In recent months, Rupert’s oldest son has been holding strategy conversations with Fox executives and anchors about how Fox News should prepare for life after Trump. Among the powerful voices advising Lachlan that Fox should decisively break with the president is former House speaker Paul Ryan, who joined the Fox board in March. “Paul is embarrassed about Trump and now he has the power to do something about it,” an executive who’s spoken with Ryan told me. (Ryan did not return a call seeking comment.)

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:43:06am

Bernie was on Colbert last night and… am I the only one who thinks his laugh is fake as shit? I hate it.

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Charmingly Persistent  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:43:34am

I have created a page with a truly gobsmacking story of working for the Trump administration. It is both hilarious and horrible.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:43:40am

re: #324 Eclectic Cyborg

Am so sorry to hear that. My best wishes to the family and friends — and especially to the doctors.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:45:27am
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sagehen  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:45:46am

re: #325 Alephnaught

Hmm, interesting detail in that Vanity Fair article about Fox News and their internal battle about how to cover Trump.

NOW he has the power to do something about it!? Not when he was Speaker and could have refused to pass any of the things he most certainly did not refuse to pass?

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:46:48am

re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Pit the Welsh against the Irish!

Tom Jones v. The Clancy Brothers

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:48:40am
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Belafon  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:50:34am

re: #329 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I will have to read the whole thing later, but there aren’t any more villages for Trump to run to unless he ends up being the prison power figure.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 27, 2019 • 10:59:04am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

[Embedded content]

What is a “perfect phone call”? The Platonic ideal of a phone call? Crystal clear sound throughout? He didn’t stutter? Was it Putin perfect?

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:00:02am

re: #327 Charmingly Persistent

If Trump is doing that regularly in the WH (and the staff has been reduced to piece things back together), imagine what he was doing in his businesses. That’s all the more reason one has to get his tax returns to piece together what he did.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:00:21am

re: #333 Belafon

I will have to read the whole thing later, but there aren’t any more villages for Trump to run to unless he ends up being the prison power figure.

At the end he suggests that if/when Trump leaves office he may attempt a foray into ‘Trump TV’, as many thought was his ultimate objective back in 2016
That’s a possibly pretty huge village, when you consider the likes of Sinclair Broadcast Group

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:02:25am

re: #336 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

At the end he suggests that if/when Trump leaves office he may attempt a foray into ‘Trump TV’, as many thought was his ultimate objective back in 2016
That’s a possibly pretty huge village, when you consider the likes of Sinclair Broadcast Group

I could see that. I was thinking about the idea that the narcassist burns everything down in the current village before moving onto the next, and was basically thinking that if you burn down the country, there’s nowhere else to go.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:02:28am
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:08:42am

re: #337 Belafon

I could see that. I was thinking about the idea that the narcassist burns everything down in the current village before moving onto the next, and was basically thinking that if you burn down the country, there’s nowhere else to go.

Hey — Putin would give him a beautiful dacha on the Black Sea for his successful implementation of the Putin plan to destroy this country.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:15:45am

BLASTO FROM THE PASTO
Donald Trump grabs Rudy Giuliani by the P#$$y

Donald Trump sexually molests Rudy Giuliani in drag.

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uriel  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:25:02am

re: #334 Mike Lamb

What is a “perfect phone call”? The Platonic ideal of a phone call? Crystal clear sound throughout? He didn’t stutter? Was it Putin perfect?

Yes.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:35:44am

re: #314 Eclectic Cyborg

Wondering how genuine that was or if Tulsi is jumping on the bandwagon now that everyone else has to try and boost her 2020 campaign.

really?
you’re wondering? ;-)

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:36:24am

re: #318 goddamnedfrank

ADVOGATO!

[Embedded content]

theyre great on toast!

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cat-tikvah  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:59:56am

re: #282 plansbandc

It will last a week and become a new national holiday.

SINK-O DE PENDEJO!

as christened by one of our fellow lizards - whose name escapes me at the moment, but I am ever in your debt!

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Semper Fi  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:51:44pm

re: #326 sagehen

Bernie was on Colbert last night and… am I the only one who thinks his laugh is fake as shit? I hate it.

Bernie, IMO, is so driven he misses much of what is normal…like he’s wearing blinders.


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